On my point about the unfinished vs. finished tho – I realize there’s no way to really concretely define it, I just meant to delineate them *more*. For a small number of judges, it’s not a problem, because everybody can more easily get on the same page about what doesn’t make the cut in terms of a definition of completeness, but with 160 judges that seems like a pretty tough communication challenge – more stringent rules seem like the clearest way to avoid the natural haphazardness of it.

If you look at some of the finalists and winners this year – games like Star Guard and Limbo – they aren’t really made by the usual suspects. (And often, people are known in the indie scene just because they make good titles reliably!)

I disagree with a number of other points in here, of course – I don’t think a hard line on ‘finished’ vs. ‘unfinished’ is every going to work, for one. But I appreciate the thoughts about it.

There’s inevitably going to be in-crowd for these kinds of things, but I do think the large number of entries skews judges’ perception to favor known folks. i f you have to play a ton of games in a short amount of free time to judge them, and if all the games are decent, you’ll probably prefer someone you know of.

I totally agree on the uniqueness (or lack thereof) of the spectrum of games. I always think of the South Park episode where all the goths are trying so hard to not conform by all wearing the same thing. :)

Ideally the festivals are meant to separate the more unique games out – I guess with film festivals usually a successful person moves on to do more established work, but the economic situation with even the successful indie game makers is that they can just barely keep making their games. Hopefully that’ll naturally change over time as the market grows.

It feels to me that the whole thing has become so successful that it is more a parody of itself with the presenters reading hollywood style from a teleprompter in front of a huge telivised audience. What exactly is indie about that?

It also feels to me like the whole thing is about the popularity of the creators and not about the games themselves, although of course nobody wants to say that. I’m just not that impressed with the number of “unique” games that are unique in such a way as to be fairly similar. Its almost like alternative lifestyle choice where the alternative is exactly the same as everyone else.

But I suppose it serves its purpose enough and I really don’t have any alternative, so maybe I should just keep quiet.